Tuesday, July 14, 2009

BTW, Palin Trolls, Get This Point Straight


We Democrats aren't "afraid" of her in the least.

We have nothing but contempt for her, but hell, afraid of someone as dishonest and incoherent as she is?

Why do we want her to run against Obama? Because the economy will have recovered from 8 years of Bush and Cheney by 2012, 


Hell, he'll hand her lying ass to her.

Final word: 

CNN Exit Poll, 2008 Election.

Is Palin Qualified to be President?

Yes 38%
No 60%

Boy, she sure resonates with America, doesn't she?


Wakefield Tolbert said...


You're a character, Joe.

We right wingers have made your day, haven't we?

Obama may very well win. I don't doubt that. Euro-styled socialism has the one merit of having people vote for a living rather than working for a living, and government gets to play the role of Nanny. When this happens I have no doubt that the 50% who'll pay little or no taxes by 2012 will form a voting block powerful enough to continue the goodies flowing their direction.

No question that's a VERY distinct possibility, Joseph.

But then, that's not really a good thing. And yes, having a political science background, even if not my profession (you either teach it or being a lawyer, and I hate both ideas and went into business for myself) and am well aware of the terminology.

Remember, however, what that Newsweek article you linked to had to say about trending?

That poll is from 2008, and my oh my how things can spin on a dime if things turn sour both at home and abroad.

Check your calender, Joe.

And check the latest scoop on a bog down war in Afghanistan and a souring economy here at home and unemployment about to tip double digits, as expected.

Keep your predectiions tucked close in. We'll see.

Ghost Knight said...

Taking bets on the 2012 election? Giving odds? I've got $100 laying around doing nothing.

Joseph said...

My election bets are for charity. I will contribute $100 to a LEGITIMATE, NON-POLITICAL charity for the first three people who bet me $100 on the 2012 election, if the challengers win. If the challengers lose, they promise to contribute $100 to MY favorite charity.

You righties will be making out your checks to:

St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. You may donate here, by the way: http://www.stjude.org/stjude/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=f2bfab46cb118010VgnVCM1000000e2015acRCRD.

Joseph said...

Yes, Wakefield, Obama INHERITED terrible problems from the conservatives, who refuse to acknowledge their responsibility for them. But I still have great confidence in him, and we shall see, won't we?

Wakefield Tolbert said...

Joe I freely admit that he INHERETED quite a bit. True enough.

To many conservatives, Bush's economic policies and compromises make his name sound a lot like "SQUISH" more than Bush. He's no more conservative on some things than I'm Chinese.

But that excuse is going to wear thin very soon.

The honeymoon phase will soon be over, even with a fawning media.

Ancient saying from the tropics:

"Laugh not at the crocodile 'til you've crossed the river."

Joseph said...

Wakefield, when Bush was politically strong, the Right was all for him. When he started to nosedive, all of a sudden he isn't a "conservative".


You lived by him. Politically, you died by him. And his no-regulation, cut taxes for the upper 1%, and start an unnecessary war in Iraq was pure conservatism in action. Further, more than 90 of the regulatory agencies under Bush were administered by former lobbyists for companies regulated by them. Pure conservative.

BTW, your assertion that half of Americans pay no taxes is false. Even the poorest earners pay FICA taxes, sales taxes, and state and local taxes. See here as an example: http://www.999ideas.com/working-poor.html

And as of 2003, a massive study indicated that states take a disproportionate share of their taxes from the poor and middle class. Study is here:


I would also add that discussions of the large share of FEDERAL INCOME TAXES paid by the upper 5 or 10% tend to never discuss the % of the nation's wealth these people control.

And where on Earth did you get the idea that Obama voters "don't work for a living"?? Where on earth do you people get these utterly weird ideas??

Ghost Knight said...

I accept the bet. My charity will be Locks of Love. Additional donations of hair are optional.

Ghost Knight said...

Incidentally, my wife and I already make yearly donations to St. Jude's. It is a wonderful charity.